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139: Dave Chapman of Long Wind Farm on Growing Greenhouse Tomatoes, Managing a Business, and the Fight to Keep the Soil in Organic

10/5/2017

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Dave Chapman got his start at Long Wind Farm in 1984 with a team of oxen, a diverse array of vegetables, and a roadside stand in East Thetford, Vermont. Today, he only grows tomatoes – and lots of them!

With 2.5 acres of greenhouses, Dave and his crew produce certified organic, soil-grown tomatoes all year ‘round. Dave digs in to the nuts and bolts of producing tomatoes in protected culture. He shares the details of his high-tech greenhouse system, Long Wind Farm’s fertility management strategies, and how Dave learned to get out of the way of his farm’s success while managing business and personal goals that were often in conflict with each other.

Dave also shares his views on the current state of the National Organic Program, organic hydroponics, and the organic livestock rules, and talks about the action being taken to try to change the situation.

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Quotes from the Show

I think a part of me wants to figure out how to make a living, but I also think there's another part of me that wants to be proud of my farm, and another part that wants to feel like the farm couldn't survive without my important contributions, and another part that wants people to like me. And the thing is, all these parts have different goals.

All the farmers I know are really overworked, and it's difficult to make a living, but that very thing of being overworked is part of what makes it difficult to make a living.

Who knows what would happen if I got hit by that truck tomorrow? Probably, we would discover I was good for something, but I don't think that the farm would stumble in the short run.

It's just a foundational management skill is to be able to have some control of the numbers to see what's happening. And not all those numbers have dollar signs on them.

It's much easier to sell the truth.

Show Links

Go to keepthesoilinorganic.org to find out about rallies in your area, submit comments about keeping the soil in organic, and to sign the petition that Dave will take to the next NOSB meeting.

Dave talked at length about Eliyahu Goldratt’s book, The Goal, a novel about how to make decisions for anything.

Transcript

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